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Martin Kerstein · Aug 27, 2009, 11:04 PM // 23:04

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

We need some clarification on this. While the initial line suggests these bars will be for GvG and HA you'll be submitting these bars through an NPC on the Great Temple of Balthazar where the PvE skill versions will be used. In which case it gives the impression that these would be for PvE henchmen, and so does that mean we'll be getting new henchmen as well or replace what we have?

This contest is purely for PvP henchmen. Even though the PvE versions of the skills are displayed, we will use the PvP versions.

We will be looking at PvE henchmen skill bars as well, but this is not part of this contest.

BenjZee · Aug 27, 2009, 11:05 PM // 23:05

I don't believe to get the skills on my pve monk to do this

all my pvp slots are full

Xenomortis · Aug 27, 2009, 11:05 PM // 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racthoh

We need some clarification on this. While the initial line suggests these bars will be for GvG and HA you'll be submitting these bars through an NPC on the Great Temple of Balthazar where the PvE skill versions will be used. In which case it gives the impression that these would be for PvE henchmen, and so does that mean we'll be getting new henchmen as well or replace what we have?

From http://www.guildwars.com/events/cont...l_bar_contest/

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Originally Posted by Above Link

In order to give all players the ability to participate in those formats (even if they can't form a full party with other players) we're replacing heroes with a selection of new, henchmen.

I would say it's for GvG and HA.

Edit: Pah, Martin beat me with an official confirmation.

Nida · Aug 27, 2009, 11:14 PM // 23:14

Yet another promotion/competition that we in the land of Oz are not eligible to take part in. So if someone from Aus enters, and their bar is picked, they dont get a prize? or will their entry be declared invalid?

MMSDome · Aug 27, 2009, 11:16 PM // 23:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein

This contest is purely for PvP henchmen. Even though the PvE versions of the skills are displayed, we will use the PvP versions.

We will be looking at PvE henchmen skill bars as well, but this is not part of this contest.

Then could you guys make it so gtob is a pvp district? It would make things much simpler.

*Darcy* · Aug 27, 2009, 11:18 PM // 23:18

@Exploiter - at least it's only a math question to meet legal contest requirements. Be glad you don't live in Rhode Island where we can't get the state government to care about amending the law.

"Eligibility (location): Entries will be accepted from legal residents of the United States (excluding the State of Rhode Island, Guam, Puerto Rico, U.S. territories, military installations and commonwealths), Canada (excluding Quebec) and Europe. (Canadian residents will be required to answer an additional mathematical question in order to claim their prize.)"

This contest sounds like fun. All the creative build makers should be excited. I do feel bad ahead of time for the winners though. With the new henchmen named after you, everytime you show up in the game with that character, you will get all those comments on your horrible build idea.

pinguinius · Aug 27, 2009, 11:18 PM // 23:18

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Originally Posted by MMSDome

Then could you guys make it so gtob is a pvp district? It would make things much simpler.

Just make the bar in your GH. Jeez, people.

.HunTer · Aug 27, 2009, 11:25 PM // 23:25

What about secondary professions?
I always wanted a monk hero with power drain and Waste not want not

@edit
I mean henchmen...

BenjZee · Aug 27, 2009, 11:25 PM // 23:25

u get 3 submissions........per character?..pvp ones can be remade too...
They should change the name of the character so slightly because some people may not to be responsible and spammed when a certain build flops in the next skill update

hahaha

Martin Kerstein · Aug 27, 2009, 11:31 PM // 23:31

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Originally Posted by .HunTer

What about secondary professions?

Dual profession bars are welcome

fenix · Aug 27, 2009, 11:34 PM // 23:34

Nice to know us Australians have been included in this contest. It's been a LONG time since we've been able to.

Oh wait, no we haven't. Shafted as usual.

Zzzzzzzz.

El Presidente · Aug 27, 2009, 11:37 PM // 23:37

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Originally Posted by Darcy

Be glad you don't live in Rhode Island where we can't get the state government to care about amending the law.

Was wondering what excluded Rhode Island. Sucks as much to live there as it does Australia for these contests...or Mexico or South America or...

Racthoh · Aug 27, 2009, 11:37 PM // 23:37

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Originally Posted by Martin Kerstein

Dual profession bars are welcome

All 10 professions as well or just the basic Warrior, Monk, Ranger, and Elementalist that are currently available?

fenix · Aug 27, 2009, 11:40 PM // 23:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nida

Yet another promotion/competition that we in the land of Oz are not eligible to take part in. So if someone from Aus enters, and their bar is picked, they dont get a prize? or will their entry be declared invalid?

I was going to enter some bars for the benefit of the game, but you know what, screw it. I'm not putting in effort when ANet don't put in effort to allow contests here.

Krazy Kat · Aug 27, 2009, 11:53 PM // 23:53

I've got a question.

Do we need to set the attributes too? I already submitted mine but I'm afraid that I did it too soon.

Martin Kerstein · Aug 27, 2009, 11:58 PM // 23:58

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Originally Posted by Krazy Kat

I've got a question.

Do we need to set the attributes too? I already submitted mine but I'm afraid that I did it too soon.

No, setting the right attributes is not necessary

moriz · Aug 28, 2009, 12:08 AM // 00:08

i have a character named "Strong Mcmanhands". if i win the prize, i think everyone will use that henchman

Lishy · Aug 28, 2009, 12:11 AM // 00:11

Uhm... Why is it they need Canadians to answer additional mathematical questions? I doubt they have racist intentions, but I don't see the reasoning.

Could a PR or anyone else tell me why this is?

Neo Nugget · Aug 28, 2009, 12:17 AM // 00:17

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Originally Posted by Kain Fz

Uhm... Why is it they need Canadians to answer additional mathematical questions? I doubt they have racist intentions, but I don't see the reasoning.

Could a PR or anyone else tell me why this is?

http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showt...php?t=10398145

Here ya go.

More specifically, http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showp...99&postcount=2

Coney · Aug 28, 2009, 12:17 AM // 00:17

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Originally Posted by FoxBat

I really wish they gave us some kind of guidelines here. For example, all existing henchmen don't have secondaries, do have a self-heal and a rez (even the monks). Do we have to follow those? Do we have any idea if the henchies can have special equipment considerations, like stonefist on warriors, or maybe crippling daggers? Do we aim for making a well-rounded build that can fit in many places, or a narrow but powerful gimmick? And what exactly is the problem with heroes that henchies will fix, would Anet just reject tease mesmer for being "too annoying"?

20 winners strongly implies that there will be 10 per format. Which also implies every class will be covered. Having to submit just 3 per account kinda sucks, it's hard to decide whether to submit the more essential bars like smiters and tainted, or to take a stab at making the least useless warrior bar just for the prize. (Although W/P spear could be pretty good... but again that secondary thing.)

I agree completely with this post, as I was thinking more-or-less the same thing myself. I mean, for certain classes, there are pretty robust and fairly OP builds - but is that really desired, or is something more middle-of-the-road the goal? And as to secondaries, it seems going something like */Rt and using [flesh of my flesh] could be quite advantageous, yet perhaps not desired?!... Does the class determine the role - as in, support -vs- DPS (spike/maintained)?!... What happens if you have the typical build, where only 7 of the skills really matter, and the 8th is a floater. What do you do when you see the winner had the same build as yours, only differing in that insignificant slot (/cry!)?

I really don't see how they will be able to fairly judge the builds, either. It seems they'd be forced to take a sample of the submissions for further review, while simply discarding the vast majority... A bot_hench -vs- bot_hench ladder might be viable, but each build would be penalized or promoted by the other builds on the bot_hench team...

Also, this opens "unfavorable" advantages for winning the 20 EL tonics, to those owning 20-30+ accounts, giving an obvious edge over single account owners...